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#12283 - 11-17-2008 10:09 AM Biosonix unit thoughts?
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Hey guys it been a while since I posted hope you all are well.

Anyway: I am real close to pulling the trigger on a new Biosonix unit.

Just trying to get a edge on the high pressured lakes during tourneys.

Worth the money or not?
Bassin Butch

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#12284 - 11-17-2008 10:38 AM Re: Biosonix unit thoughts? [Re: bassin butch]
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Hi Butch,

It has been a while. Good to hear from you again. I have not used the biosonix unit, so I cannot give you a personal opinion from first hand experience. There is a decent post about this unit at: Biosonix Discussion

From what I've been reading, it sounds like there is a lot of differences in opinion. There are claims that KVD used the unit to "win" three tournaments, however when you watch those three tournaments, the unit is never seen. Other E50 anglers also are sponsored by this company, however they have not one a tournament in the past several years, so how much of an advantage could it really be giving you? At around $600 for the unit, that's a substancial chance you'd be taking. I'll compare it to electronics... I did not purchase the new Humminbird 997 with side imaging until I was able to get out on the water with someone who had it already so that I could see what it could do first hand. A lot of the guys here at Bassin' USA certainly helped make me feel comfortable about my decision, but in the end I needed to get in the boat with someone to see it work with my own eyes. The trouble with that is how many people do you know that own one of those units? I do not know anyone that has one, so for me trying one out would be limited to making a purchase.

Well, I guess I'm just ramblimg on here... the best I can offer you Butch is that link above and hopefully some of our members respond with some first hand knowledge/experience with the Biosonix unit.

Great to hear from you... how's life been treating you?

Brendan
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#12289 - 11-17-2008 11:16 AM Re: Biosonix unit thoughts? [Re: Brendan]
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Brendan all has been well! With to current state of our economy I and my wife are still employed, I hope all of our members are in the same state. I had an off year in tournaments mainly due to my partner. Most times I was catching everything we weighed in. Constantly was missing the money by 2 pounds to a few ounces.
Real bummer: First year out on my new Champion boat and no money. Anyway: hope to hear some news on the biosonix, if not will likely spend the cash on rods and reels. Had the bad experience of kicking 3 over the gunnel and off they went into the obis (YIKES)
Bassin Butch

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#12291 - 11-17-2008 01:30 PM Re: Biosonix unit thoughts? [Re: bassin butch]
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In all my years fishing, I've only kicked one rod/reel over the side that I was not able to save before it sank to the bottom. Three in one shot though??? That's a real big hit to take at once... next time try and spread it out a little... you know, kick one over the side and then wait a few weeks before you 86 the next one... lol! ;\)
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#12312 - 11-17-2008 10:20 PM Re: Biosonix unit thoughts? [Re: Brendan]
bassin butch Offline
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Brendan; hope I never do that again!

OK folks now what about the Biosonix? Are you folks are trying to keep a secret? Its a whole lot of money and I dont wish to just throw it away.

Bassin
Butch

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#12316 - 11-18-2008 11:19 AM Re: Biosonix unit thoughts? [Re: bassin butch]
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All I hear is "crickets" out there... come on guys/gals... someone must have something to contribute that might help butch???
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#12321 - 11-18-2008 12:13 PM Re: Biosonix unit thoughts? [Re: Brendan]
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Not knowing myself about Biosonix I did a little digging and this is what I came up with. This is by far not my opinion but information I have gathered.

Go to this link and get the general history of the unit and a overview of what it does:

Overview

I found this article from Matt williams.

Just about everyone knows what a Rat-L-Trap is. For those who don’t, it is a lure lure intended to catch fish, not rats.

I would rank the ‘Trap among the Top 3 fish-catchingest baits of all time. It is also one of the most user-friendly lures around. Just chunk it. Wind it. And hang on tight. The Rat-L-Trap will do the rest.

In contrast, not everyone knows what Biosonix is. But word is rapidly beginning to spread. Way too many anglers are fooling way too many fish with the newfangled technology on their side.

Developed through years of research by the folks at BSX Sound Technology in Alexandria, La., Biosonix is what I call bait fish in a box. The electronic unit emits digitally recorded sounds of distressed bait fish being chased, attacked and eaten by game fish in a natural environment. The real life sounds are dispersed via a small speaker that mounts to the trolling motor, much like an external transducer puck.

With the click of a button, Biosonix casts into the depths the signature sounds of an actual feeding frenzy. You can pause the unit just as quickly using a floor switch conveniently mounted to the casting deck of the boat.

Biosonix acoustics are potent. The sounds can travel up to 400 feet horizontally and 100 feet vertically through the water column. It is believed the sounds can arouse the competitive instincts in game fish, often to the point of making inactive fish suddenly become active enough that they will pounce on an artificial lure.

“Biosonix is not a fish call by any means,” says BASS pro Ken Cook of Lawton, Okla. “It is more a fish activator that works by putting sounds in the water that arouse the curiosity of bass and other predators. Basically, it plays on the natural instincts of bass by making them think other predators are in their territory, eating their shad. Bass that may be inactive might suddenly become more active, which in turn makes them more susceptible to striking an artificial lure.”

If you think the concept sounds like a gimmick, you are not alone. Boyd Duckett of Demopolis, Ala., was admittedly skeptical of the idea until he actually put Biosonix to the test.

Duckett recently captured the 2007 Bassmaster Classic title on Lay Lake in Alabama. He was among a host of Bass Elite Series pros who laid over a couple a days following the “Battle on the Border” at Lake Amistad to attend a press session hosted by Rat-L-Trap, BSX Sound Technology and Tru-Tungsten.

Duckett and I fished with BSX’s public relations director Wes Higgins on the first morning of the trip. Interestingly, we made a pass over a main lake flat with no strikes. Higgins suggested we make another pass, this time with the Biosonix unit turned on. Within minutes we landed a pair of bass from an area that had already been combed with a trio of artificial lures.

The incident stirred Duckett’s curiosity enough that he continued to use Biosonix off and on throughout the day. He was sold on the technology after the experience he encountered while fishing with outdoor writer Brian Lynn on a windless March afternoon.

Duckett said he and Lynn made a pass over a brushy, main lake point with no strikes. Confident there were bass in the area, Duckett circled back and made a second pass over the point, this time with the Biosonix unit powered up. They caught five bass and missed two others within 15 minutes.

Still not convinced, Duckett went to an area where he and I had caught several quality bass earlier in the day.

Ditto. No Biosonix. No bites.

Things changed when Duckett turned the unit on. He landed a 7 pounder, 3 pounder and had several short strikes.

“I have to admit, I was sort of skeptical about the Biosonix until I actually saw it work,” Duckett said. “I won’t go fishing without it again.”

Duckett and Cook aren’t the big name pros with Biosonix technology on board their bass boats.

BSX has assembled a team of other reputable anglers including Tommy Martin, Stacey King, Aaron Martens, Kenyon Hill, Mike Iaconelli, Homer Humphreys and Bill Dance to help get the word out.

Many of their peers are listening. Peter Thiliveros, Chad Brauer, Skeet Reese, John Murray, John Crews and a host of other pro anglers have Biosonix on the front deck.

Kevin VanDam, BASS’ first $2 million man, has been using the technology for the better part of two seasons. He went on record in 2005 as saying Biosonix was a key factor in his winning back-to-back E-50 events on Lake Lewisville in Texas and Lake Wissota in Wisconsin, and eventually the Bassmasters Classic in Pennsylvania.

Martin was among the first pros approached by the company’s late research and development director Randy Flint in June 2004.

Like Duckett, the legendary Texas angler was somewhat leery of the concept at first. He became a believer once he saw it work in his own backyard.

Martin took Flint to some of his favorite worms holes on Toledo Bend. He purposely scheduled the trip well after the early morning feed. They fished six different spots, each for about 45 minutes. The unit was turned on half the time, paused the other half.

“It was pretty impressive,” Martin said. “The first spot we went to I caught three bass with the unit turned off, seven with it turned on. I fished five more places after that and consistently caught more bass with the unit turned on than with it off. It definitely can make a difference.”

So, what does a screaming bait fish scrambling for its life sound like? I can’t say for sure, but the acoustics emitted by Biosonix sound a whole lot like a Rat-L-Trap zipping through the water.

Interestingly, the concept is a spinoff from the remarkable successes of the first lipless crankbait invented by Bill Lewis. Lewis’ son, Buddy, brainstormed idea in 1997 and spent the next five years refining it with help of several professional fisheries biologists and researchers including .

The end result is bait fish in a box. Biosonix operates using a compact flash card that contains a series of sound loops that can be combined to build custom programs.

The sound loops last 1-2 minutes. Most users have reported the best results by activating the unit at staggered intervals with a convenient foot switch that comes as part of package.

The cost? BSX technology doesn’t come cheap. MSRP is $699.00. For more info, check the Internet, http://www.biosonix.com.

source

This is what Skeet Reese had to say about it.

REESE COMMITS TO BIOSONIX. Skeet Reese, the reigning Toyota Tundra Bassmaster Angler Of The Year, has joined the Biosonix pro staff.

Reese said that since he has been using the product for a year, it was a natural fit to join the staff.

“Biosonix has been on my boat for over a year now, and can definitely tell the difference in my fishing,” Reese said. “One day I went into an area on Clear Lake that I knew was holding fish, and worked the area hard without the Biosonix turned on, and I didn’t get a bite. The I turned the unit on and (caught ’em). Ever since then, I’ve been sure to have BSX on board for every tournament.”

The company is excited about the signing.

“We’re really jacked up about this,” said Wes Higging, company spokesman. “He’s one of the best anglers in the world, and he’s been fishing the product successfully. It just makes sense.”

source

also here is a link to a review from an eledged Bass tournament fisherman.
Link to review

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#12323 - 11-18-2008 01:37 PM Re: Biosonix unit thoughts? [Re: Nunz]
Nunz Moderator Offline
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Then of course you have the reviews from people that are not endorsing the product.

Overall Rating: 1 out of 5

completed again, January 24, 2008
By Reviewed


""Lot of quailty issues with my purchase. The volume control did not work, the buttons on the unit did not perform as the documentation was written that came with the unit, there is also a complete lack of information with some of the parts that they send and you really have no idea what they are to be used for, there is also a card slot on the unit which they also fail to give any information about, and some of the latches that came with mine were broken from shipping. Called and was told to send it back and they would fix everything. After recieving the unit again the only thing I got was a letter stating that they knew the documentation was incorrect (which they could have told me on the phone). They never even mentioned why the volume did not work nor did they fix it. I could not tell they did anything to it. I sent it back for a full refund. I never got this thing wet because of all the problems. For something that costs what this does they really need to do a lot better. I would give it lower than one star if I could.""




Review 2 for Biosonix Fish Attractor Unit
Overall Rating: 5 out of 5

WORTH IT, July 17, 2007
By 1TIGER from SOUTH EAST VIRGINIA


"WE WERE FISHING A BASS TOURN. AND WE WERE IN A CLOSED MARSH CHANEL/DRAIN ABOUT 3000' LONG X 75' WIDE
WE MADE A PASS IN EACH DIRECTION WITH THE UNIT OFF THEN WAITED ABOUT 10 MINS. AND DID IT AGAIN WITH THE UNIT ON ON THE FIRST PASS WE ONLY HAD 2 HITS AND NO CATCHES. ON THE 2ND PASS WE HAD OVER 30 HITS AND CAUGHT 3 FISH
IM NOT SAYING THIS IS SCIENTIFIC PROOF BUT ON 2 OTHER OCCASIONS I DIDNT CATCH FISH BUT THE INCREASE IN FISH ACTIVITY ON THE FISH FINDER OF ATLEAST 4 TIMES WHAT I HAD WHEN THE UNIT WAS OFF WAS UNBELEAVABLE --- I SAT IN 1 AREA AND TRIED THIS SEVERAL TIMES OVER APPROX. 3 HRS AND IT WAS CONSITENTLY BETTER EVERYTIME THE UNIT WAS ON"




Review 3 for Biosonix Fish Attractor Unit
Overall Rating: 3 out of 5

Biosonix fish caller, March 26, 2007
By KB11 from Marinette, WIS


"After using the caller for two weekends ice fishing, my fishing freind and I both agreed it did work. We used it along with a camera and found the minnow feed seemed to bring the blue gills in. Running the volume up brought in northerns that didn't want to leave. I just sent the unit back today as it had a charging cord that could not charge the unit even after three days of constant charging. The company said they would check everything out and send me a new unit if need be."




Review 4 for Biosonix Fish Attractor Unit
Overall Rating: 2 out of 5

Biosonix usage, February 1, 2007
By JRelyea from Saddle Brook, NJ


"OK. I hopped on the bandwagon to give me an edge during family competitions for a variety of fresh water species. For weekend getaways: the boat with the least number of fish gets stuck doing the dishes... bring Biosonix into my boat ASAP!!!

I've had better than average results with catching fish while using it, though I am not 100% certain it made an actual difference. What I do know is we fished a bay here and there coming up with nothing. Within 10 minutes of the unit being powered on, we had a couple of fish netted. That by itself seems promising.

I've had several reliability issues with it but the company stands behind the product so far (I still have the grief of packing, sending and waiting for it to come back though). First unit wouldn't charge. Second unit would not let the bait sounds be set. The 12v cord seperated from the plug the 3rd time.

I'm overall disappointed with the quality of the product which is why I'm giving it 2 stars.

Happy fishing!!
\:\)
jr"

review source

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#12324 - 11-18-2008 02:06 PM Re: Biosonix unit thoughts? [Re: Nunz]
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Thanks Brendan and Nunz? From what I found by surfing the net and the link above: I'm not sure I can make a smart choice! Pros may be paid for, and some of the non-pro users could have just caught more by chance. I don't need a Biosonix as I can catch bass without it, 26 years of proof behind that.

I called BSX: they were nice people but I found the following: 1 year warranty with no optional warranty extension plan? SD cards are to be supposably available in the future tagged as a KVD card and others such as IKE. My common sense side tells me to be cautious,my fisherman side tells me an edge is an edge.

Still undecided!!!!!!!!!

Bassin Butch

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#12326 - 11-18-2008 03:26 PM Re: Biosonix unit thoughts? [Re: bassin butch]
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Don't blame you Butch. As Brendan said in the earlier post "until I was able to get out on the water with someone who had it already so that I could see what it could do first hand." Would be my feelings also after reading everything.

Glad to help.

Nunz
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